Do you think we could get an updated Demo at some point? Given there's still no set release date and the current demo is nearly 8 years out of date, I think the non-alpha testers would like to see how much has changed.
Not very likely save for maybe an after story kind of thing but that'd happen wayyyy down the line, haha. No time for characters to get pregnant in a time of war!
At the current moment in time it's just Patreon, since I didn't want to spread myself too thin across multiple platforms. But if there was enough interest I could potentially explore it!
That said, it's my hope that the full completed game will be available for purchase on here soon enough so you wouldn't have to worry about going for alpha builds and such.
Hello :) Made an account just to say that I'm glad to see chapter 2 (demo) is out, and from the bit I've played it's every bit as good as the original. Thank you, and please don't rush yourself
Heya! I appreciate the kind words, thank you~ I hope the final game will be just as good as Chapter One for people--if not a giant evolution forward, with plenty of fun twists and turns along the way with the story, which I've put a huge focus on this time around!
I know you don't like to commit to release dates, but I was curious as to the state since it's been 3 months since the last comment. Any hope at all for a release this year?
Hiya there! Apologies--no solid estimate on things just yet as I've been struggling a fair bit. But I'll keep pushing forward with things and apoologise that I can't give anything more concrete as I want to avoid it blowing up in my face as it's done in the past, haha. ;~;
I understand! And you're always welcome to ask for an update whenever you want if you feel it's been too long to put your mind at ease, haha. Since I won't be going anywhere, and intend to see things through to the end even if it's been a heck of a journey.
Hi, I loved the first game and can't wait for the next :) Something I'm worried about from the demo, though, is that it was a bit of a pain in the arse trying to see every single H-scene because there are so many branches. It wasn't too bad, but I'm worried that with the much bigger complete game it'll be really painstaking to go through every possible branch. I also wonder whether branching paths is one reason why the sequel is taking so long to complete (since it multiplies the work), and I think it's a real shame that some people will only follow one or two paths and miss out on a huge chunk of your work. Please add some facility to make it easier to see everything; I find saving at every fork really laborious (especially since you can't do it on the actual choice screen with the buttons), and that's a shame because the game is otherwise fantastic. Perhaps being able to scroll the text backwards, or greying out choices you've made in your other save games, might make things easier. Thanks.
Chapter Two is indeed very complex--far more complex than even the demo in regards to finding some h-scenes. And I suppose I never set out to make a super complicated or obtuse game, but it just sort of happened the more open things became. So a lot of scenes will definitely be missed out on a single playthrough, or even two. Which isn't ideal because naturally I'd like everyone to be able to easily see the work I put in, but it kind of just ended up being a result of the added complexity, haha. ;~; While I'm purely focused on writing right now, I'll see what I can do to try to make searching for scenes a bit easier. But to answer a few things:
You should be able to save on a choice selection, by right clicking. And text can be rolled back to a degree with the page up and page down keys. Or even the mousewheel scroll. But I know these controls aren't stated outright and are more just built-in features of the engine I use, so will be more intuitive for some than others. Also, in the most recent builds I do have something of a system in place where dialogue choices are marked with a check as to whether you answered them or not (carrying over between saves on a global basis), and sometimes a heart if a specific choice leads to a h-scene right away--but admittedly it's not the most ideal solution either because some scenes hours down the road might only happen because of a mix of choices made rather than any one choice at a specific moment.
Beyond that, I contemplated having a hint system in the gallery, where if you click a scene that's locked it could give a hint as to what you might need to do to see it. But that's a lot of work so it's something I'd need to evaluate once the bulk of the writing is done.
I'm certainly not handwaving your concerns away though, and totally understand where you come from, because I never intended for Chapter Two to get to quite this size, and it's sort of become a victim under its own weight, haha. Because I'm very proud of everything that's in it, and the fact I've made such a long VN, but at the same time I know I'm asking a lot of people to see EVERYTHING in it, unless they're super dedicated.
Not sure if this is easier or not, but perhaps just posting a guide or choice flowchart afterwards?
Very excited for the game to eventually release btw, been checking in every once in a while since I found out you were making a chapter 2 a few years ago!
A guide'd definitely be easiest in terms of implementing at the very least--even if it was a .pdf or such!
That said, there were at least a few secrets I wanted people to discover organically first. But maybe after a bit I can reveal them if nobody has found them!
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Do you think we could get an updated Demo at some point? Given there's still no set release date and the current demo is nearly 8 years out of date, I think the non-alpha testers would like to see how much has changed.
Hiya,
I posted another demo in recent years here: https://frostworks.itch.io/quest-failed-chapter-two-christmas-demo
That showcases some newer scenarios in case people want to check more stuff out!
Well I guess that's better than nothing. Still 4 years old though.
oh, hey frosty, do you guys have a discord? or anything like that?
Hiya! Nothing public right now but I'll potentially reopen the Discord when Chapter Two releases.
Happy spooky season Frosty!
Happy Spooky season to you, too!
Will future chapters have impreg?
Hiya,
Not very likely save for maybe an after story kind of thing but that'd happen wayyyy down the line, haha. No time for characters to get pregnant in a time of war!
Would still be fun as an ending!
Do you support anything other than Patreon?
We stopped funding through patreon a few years ago.
I've been watching your itch.io page hoping for updates here, but haven't seen any way to get a taste of the newest changes of your software.
subscribestar.adult maybe?
Hiya there!
At the current moment in time it's just Patreon, since I didn't want to spread myself too thin across multiple platforms. But if there was enough interest I could potentially explore it!
That said, it's my hope that the full completed game will be available for purchase on here soon enough so you wouldn't have to worry about going for alpha builds and such.
Hello :) Made an account just to say that I'm glad to see chapter 2 (demo) is out, and from the bit I've played it's every bit as good as the original. Thank you, and please don't rush yourself
Heya! I appreciate the kind words, thank you~ I hope the final game will be just as good as Chapter One for people--if not a giant evolution forward, with plenty of fun twists and turns along the way with the story, which I've put a huge focus on this time around!
I know you don't like to commit to release dates, but I was curious as to the state since it's been 3 months since the last comment. Any hope at all for a release this year?
Hiya there! Apologies--no solid estimate on things just yet as I've been struggling a fair bit. But I'll keep pushing forward with things and apoologise that I can't give anything more concrete as I want to avoid it blowing up in my face as it's done in the past, haha. ;~;
No worries, haven't been able to use twitter for over 8 years. this is the only place I can get updates.
I understand! And you're always welcome to ask for an update whenever you want if you feel it's been too long to put your mind at ease, haha. Since I won't be going anywhere, and intend to see things through to the end even if it's been a heck of a journey.
Happy spooky season Frosty! Its been a wild six years! You're do amazing work as always!
Thank you very much~ Happy spooky season! Here's to more monster girl goodness on the horizon!
Hi, I loved the first game and can't wait for the next :) Something I'm worried about from the demo, though, is that it was a bit of a pain in the arse trying to see every single H-scene because there are so many branches. It wasn't too bad, but I'm worried that with the much bigger complete game it'll be really painstaking to go through every possible branch. I also wonder whether branching paths is one reason why the sequel is taking so long to complete (since it multiplies the work), and I think it's a real shame that some people will only follow one or two paths and miss out on a huge chunk of your work. Please add some facility to make it easier to see everything; I find saving at every fork really laborious (especially since you can't do it on the actual choice screen with the buttons), and that's a shame because the game is otherwise fantastic. Perhaps being able to scroll the text backwards, or greying out choices you've made in your other save games, might make things easier. Thanks.
Heya there,
Thank you for your kind words and feedback!
Chapter Two is indeed very complex--far more complex than even the demo in regards to finding some h-scenes. And I suppose I never set out to make a super complicated or obtuse game, but it just sort of happened the more open things became. So a lot of scenes will definitely be missed out on a single playthrough, or even two. Which isn't ideal because naturally I'd like everyone to be able to easily see the work I put in, but it kind of just ended up being a result of the added complexity, haha. ;~;
While I'm purely focused on writing right now, I'll see what I can do to try to make searching for scenes a bit easier. But to answer a few things:
You should be able to save on a choice selection, by right clicking. And text can be rolled back to a degree with the page up and page down keys. Or even the mousewheel scroll. But I know these controls aren't stated outright and are more just built-in features of the engine I use, so will be more intuitive for some than others. Also, in the most recent builds I do have something of a system in place where dialogue choices are marked with a check as to whether you answered them or not (carrying over between saves on a global basis), and sometimes a heart if a specific choice leads to a h-scene right away--but admittedly it's not the most ideal solution either because some scenes hours down the road might only happen because of a mix of choices made rather than any one choice at a specific moment.
Beyond that, I contemplated having a hint system in the gallery, where if you click a scene that's locked it could give a hint as to what you might need to do to see it. But that's a lot of work so it's something I'd need to evaluate once the bulk of the writing is done.
I'm certainly not handwaving your concerns away though, and totally understand where you come from, because I never intended for Chapter Two to get to quite this size, and it's sort of become a victim under its own weight, haha. Because I'm very proud of everything that's in it, and the fact I've made such a long VN, but at the same time I know I'm asking a lot of people to see EVERYTHING in it, unless they're super dedicated.
Not sure if this is easier or not, but perhaps just posting a guide or choice flowchart afterwards?
Very excited for the game to eventually release btw, been checking in every once in a while since I found out you were making a chapter 2 a few years ago!
A guide'd definitely be easiest in terms of implementing at the very least--even if it was a .pdf or such!
That said, there were at least a few secrets I wanted people to discover organically first. But maybe after a bit I can reveal them if nobody has found them!